THE MARITIMES SCANNING SITE

SAINT JOHN, NEW BRUNSWICK PUBLIC SERVICE  & REFINERY COMMUNICATIONS
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Last Updated March 16, 2008

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A. Some conventional public service frequencies:

Saint John Harbour Bridge Authority: 158.43 MHz
River Valley GSAR: 173.79 MHz
District 6 School Buses: Rptr outputs shown, all with input 456.3375.  451.3125 Saint John, 451.6875 Rothesay, 451.8875 Sussex.  Buses in Saint John itself District 8 have no radios.
Saint John Transit: 171.78 with input 172.5

B. Saint John Area public service Trunk system

It is reported that Saint John has two 800 MHz trunk systems.   The one described here is by far the more important, and relevant to the typical scanner listener.  See farther down the page for the system used by the Irving refinery.    

As of early 2008, the ambulance system of NB has been unified, and therefore any reference to ambulance usage of this trunk system is now obsolete, as all ambulances in NB now use the provincial VHF repeater system.

The Saint John trunk system is a Motorola Type IIi hybrid system with one site at Mayflower Lake (near the Regional Hospital).  This system is owned and operated by Bell Canada, with talkgroups and airtime being rented to the City of Saint John, to the local ambulance services, and to various commercial companies.  The latter group includes Parkway Mall security,  McAllister Mall, Prince Edward Mall, Brunswick Square, and Market Square, hospital security, Delivery companies and Towing companies.

This system is not thought to have any connection to the Nova Scotia Trunked Mobile Radio System even though it has the same owner/operator (unlike the Fredericton system, which is part of the NSTMRS)

The system is partitioned, with some frequencies available to all users, and some available only to the non-public safety users.

Frequency 800 MHz Channel # Use
854.9875 160 Voice Frequency (non public safety users only)
855.2375 170 Voice Frequency (non public safety users only)
855.4875 180 Voice Frequency (non public safety users only)
855.7375 190 Voice Frequency (non public safety users only)
855.9875 200 Voice Frequency (non public safety users only)
856.2375 210 Voice Frequency (non public safety users only)
856.4875 220 Voice Frequency (non public safety users only)
856.7375 230 Voice Frequency (non public safety users only)
856.9875 240 Voice Frequency (non public safety users only)
857.2375 (see below) 250 Voice Frequency (all users)
858.2375 290 Data and Voice* (all users)
858.4875 300 Data and Voice* (all users)
858.7375 310 Data and Voice* (all users)
858.9875 320 Voice Frequency (all users)
859.2375 330 Voice Frequency (all users)
860.8375 394 Voice Frequency (non public safety users only)
861.0875 404 Voice Frequency (non public safety users only)

In 2006 it appeared to be that almost all communications of most interest to scanner listeners could be heard on this one frequency, according to a local listener.   I am not sure how this can be, but I assume that this is the primary voice channel, so that unless there are two conversations going on at once, this is the one that will be used.

Please note that channels 260, 270 and 280 are not part of this system as they are Industry Canada designated special use frequencies.  Same for 340 and 350, which may explain why this system has had to go outside Group 0 for additional frequencies (394 and 404).

 

Saint John Trunk System Talkgroups

ID USER relative # of key-ups

16

Irving Group of Companies

4

32

Irving Group of Companies

269

48

Irving Group of Companies

206

64

Irving Group of Companies

87

80

Unidentified

63

96

Irving Group of Companies

168

112

Unidentified

8

128

Unidentified

5

240

Remote Air Quality Sensor

1

656

Remote Air Quality Sensor

19

848

Unidentified

4

880

Unidentified

2

912

Irving Group of Companies

12

1008

Unidentified

21

1072

Unidentified

30

1104

Unidentified

20

1136

Unidentified

52

1232

SJPD Dispatch 1

182

1296

SJPD CPIC 5

29

1360

SJPD TAC 6

41

1680

SJFD Dispatch 04

29

1712

SJFD TAC 1

3

2000

Unidentified

24

2064

Unidentified

59

2096

Unidentified

63

2128

Unidentified

6

2256

Unidentified

21

2336

Unidentified

2

2384

Ambulance Dispatch 1

131

2400

Unidentified

3

2416

Unidentified

2

2480

Delivery Company

98

2560

Unidentified

2

2736

Unidentified

35

2800

Unidentified

30

3024

Unidentified

20

3088

A mall security company ?

27

3200

SJRH (AHSC) Security?

15

3232

Unidentified

14

3280

A mall Maintenance ch?

10

3296

Simonds Taxi

464

3360

Unidentified

12

3424

Unidentified

48

3440

Unidentified

1

3504

Unidentified

8

3696

Unidentified

103

4128

Unidentified

1

4176

Unidentified

11

4192

Unidentified

4

4800

Unidentified

1

4848

Unidentified

58

4880

Unidentified

26

5248

Unidentified

1

5280

Unidentified

10

5408

Unidentified

23

5680

Unidentified

141

6128

Delivery Company

23

6240

University Taxi

318

6352

Unidentified

3

6384

Unidentified

38

6704

Unidentified

75

6736

Delivery Company ?

107

6896

Delivery Company

73

6928

Unidentified

1

8464

McAllister Mall Sec/Maintenance

18

8592

Garbage Collection Company?

88

8784

Unidentified

61

9296

Unidentified

16

16448

Unidentified

6

16464

Unidentified

6

17024

Unidentified

13

17040

Unidentified

2

17088

Unidentified

21

17104

Unidentified

41

19984

Unidentified

1

     
 

75 Talk Group ID's Discovered!

 
 

Using ID Tracker©

 
     
 

Arthur Bungay (VE9ARB)

 

Here is another list.  I will be amalgamating these lists ASAP

ID DESIGNATION
1232 Police Ch 1 Dispatch
1264 Police Ch 13 Major Crime
1296 Police Ch 5 CPIC
1328 Police Tac 4???
1360 Police Tac 6
1392 Police Tac 7
1424 Police Tac 8
1456 Police Tac 9
1488 Police Tac 10
   
1584 EMO (Interagency Ch 14)
1616 Joint Ops (Interagency Ch 15)
1680 Fire DISP4 (dispatch and minor calls)
1712 Fire Tac 1 (most commonly used ops)
1744 Fire Tac 5
1776 Fire Tac 6
1808 Fire Tac 7
1840 Fire Prevention 13
1872 Fire Tac 8
2000 Water and Sewage Dispatch
2032 Water and Sewage Tac
2064 Works Ops
2096  Sanitation
2128 Parks Dept.
2160 Engineering
2192 Foreman
2384 Ambulance Dispatch
2400 Ambulance Tac 6
2416 Ambulance Tac 4
2432 Ambulance Tac 7
   
3296 Simonds Taxi
6240 University Taxi

Fire nomenclature:  During on-scene communications the term "Fire" followed by a number indicates a person or non firetruck unit.  Fire 1 = Chief, Fire 2= Deputy FC, Fire 3= District Chief (Ops), Fire 4 = District Chief (Admin), Fire 5 = Training Division, Fire 6 = Training Supvr.

Radio Channelization
Channel numbers shown are those appearing on the indicated agency's radios.

POLICE

CH

ID

FIRE

CH

ID

AMBULANCE

CH

ID

DISPATCH

1

1232

TAC 1

1

1712

DISP 1

1

2384

E-RPT

2

 

E-RPT

2

 

E-RPT

2

 

W-RPT

3

 

W-RPT

3

 

W-RPT

3

 

S-RPT

4

 

DISP 4

4

1680

TAC 4

4

2416

CPIC

5

1296

S-RPT

5

1744

 

 

 

TAC 6

6

1360

TAC 6

6

1776

TAC 6

6

2400

TAC 7

7

1392

TAC 7

7

1808

TAC 7

7

2432

TAC 8

8

1424

TAC 8

8

1872

 

 

 

TAC 9

9

1456

 

9

 

 

 

 

TAC 10

10

1488

 

 

 

 

 

 

MCU 13

13

1264

PREV 13

13

1840

 

 

 

EMO 14

14

1584

EMO 14

14

1584

EMO 14

14

1584

JOINT OPS 15

15

1616

JOINT OPS 15

15

1616

JOINT OPS 15

15

1616

                                                                    

 

 

 

 

 

Some channels are not allocated or not known.   Please note that channels 14 and 15 are the same for all three agencies, in order to facilitate inter-communications.

 

Saint John Emergency Services Conventional Frequencies:

Frequency Use/Title
866.0375 Police Ch 2 (East Rptr)
866.2875 Police Simplex
866.5375 Fire West (Fire Ch 3)
866.7875 Fire Simplex
867.0375 Police Ch 3  (West Rptr)
867.2875 not known to be in use
867.5375 Fire East (Fire Ch 2)
867.7875 not known to be in use
868.0375 Fire South (replaced Fire Tac 5)

There is supposedly also a South Repeater used by the Police and other services.. In the chart above the Police West and East frequencies may be incorrectly switched.

Please note that ambulance services remain primarily on VHF. They may be dispatched on the trunk but use 150.65 for operations. See the NB Ambulance page for information.

 

TRUNKED SYSTEM USED BY THE IRVING REFINERY

This information provided in April 2007 by a contributor in Saint John:

Pardon the format.  Will be fixed when time permits.

Irving Oil Refinery Talkgroups - Motorola Type 2 800 Mhz

Talk Group ID

Name

Bank

Bank

Trunking Frequencies

16

Emergency

859.0875

32

Maintenance

858.8375

48

North Process

858.5875

64

#3 Crude Unit

858.3375

80

Hydro Cracker

96

Oil Movement

112

Canaport

128

Breaker Testing

160

Environment

176

North Process 2

192

Announcement

208

Hydro Cracker 2

224

Security

240

Scada

320

Pro Insul

432

Loop Check 1

592

Loop Check 2

2256

Crane 1

2736

Trestle

2752

RME

3424

Scaffolding

3440

Canaport 2

3696

Marine

3760

Central Process Emerg

4080

South Process 1

4496

Shutdown

5680

East Process 1

5712

East Process 2

6224

Honeywell

6256

Crane 6

6272

Crane 7

6288

Crane 10

6304

Crane 11

6320

Crane 12

6336

Crane 13

6368

4 Play

6992

South Process 2

7360

ULSD

256

Warehouse

7552

Maintenance Project

7456

Tool Crib

7536

ULSD 1

7568

Matrix

7776

Crane 46

7792

Crane 47